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Hi Helena - try this URL (I think it is google's cached version as the paper has been since removed): http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:kWcu_bF4rHQJ:www.edu.helsinki.fi/activi ty/people/engestro/files/Values_and_rubbish_paper.pdf+Values,+Rubbish+and+Wo rkplace+Learning&hl=en Hope this helps. -Kristen -----Original Message----- From: Helena Worthen [mailto:hworthen@igc.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:08 AM To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu Cc: Xmca Subject: looking for Yrjo's paper on values, rubbish etc. > > Hello -- I'm looking for Yrjo's paper mentioned below -- "Values, Rubbish > and Workplace Learning." Did it get sent to xmca? I have not been able to > find it on the website. If someone knows where to get it, could you please > either post it and report where it is? OR send me a copy? It' sounds good! Thanks -- Helena Worthen Chicago Labor Education Progarm University of Illinois hworthen@uic.edu > > > > > Mike Cole wrote: > > > > > Yrjo-- Send along the paper and we can post it on the xmca website. > > > There is enough > > > confusion about the expanded triangle now to make it worthwhile to at > > > least get the > > > story straight so people are talking about the same thing! > > > mike > > > > > > On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:29:36 +0100, Yrjö Engeström > > > <yrjo.engestrom@helsinki.fi> wrote: > > > > Michael, if exchange has jumped from the S-C-Rules subtriangle to > > > > C-O-DivLab subtriangle, it is a mistake committed by someone who made > > > > > the graphics for the web page. Please tell me where this faulty > diagram > > > > is exactly and I'll get it fixed. > > > > > > > > As to your question, you might be interested in a new paper in which > I > > > > discuss the spheres of production, exchange, consumption (though not > > > > distribution) - and not using the triangle this time. The paper is > > > > titled VALUES, RUBBISH, AND WORKPLACE LEARNING and I'll be happy to > > > > send it to you if you want. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Yrjö > > > > > > > > Wolff-Michael Roth kirjoittaa perjantaina, 12. marraskuuta 2004, > kello > > > > 16:44: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > I had some trouble with remembering where in YE's triangle go the > > > > > terms DISTRIBUTION and EXCHANGE. Today I realized for the first > time > > > > > that YE used to have EXCHANGE in the S-C-RULES subtriangle but on > the > > > > > website has it in the C-O-DivLab subbtriangle. > > > > > Does anyone have an idea when this change happened and why it > > > > > > happened? > > > > > Has anyone worked on the fact whether it made sense to > overlay > > > > > production-consumption-exchange-distribution, which Marx discussed > at > > > > > the society level onto YE's triangle, which deals with any local, > > > > > concretely realized activity? > > > > > Thanks for any pointers. > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >