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Words _ARE_ words only within languages. A great deal follows from this idea, if it's accepted.If it's not accepted, I sincerely don't have any idea what people mean by "words."
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011, Martin Packer wrote:
Mike, I wasn't attributing the "it's just sound" view to you. Rather, this seems to be Andy's view: that meaning is all in the listener; what is in the world is just material sound. I think you and I agree that speech is both material *and* ideal. The ideal has objective existence. Meaning is in the world. This is the difficulty of three people talking at once! Martin
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