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Re: [xmca] Re: ye native speakers of English



Oh I see, Monica! :) In the sense that I managed to skip formal training in any of the relevant disciplines, I too am somewhat of an immigrant in the world of academia, but I admit that living within the walls of academia, has had its effect on me. I'm a bit like one of those eminent citizens in the US who are in fact "illegals."

Andy

Monica Hansen wrote:
Andy:
I'm so glad you didn't realize! I AM a native speaker of common American
dialect of English that in my formative years had nothing to do with
academia --I'm still trying to move beyond it ;).
In a developed discourse, or "tradition of scientific analysis", common
words are often appropriated and nuanced in a way that may be different from
use in another discourse community. When reading posts or any text, I roll
along merrily thinking I understand what is being said-- unless there is a
burr or sticking point, something that does not resonate. "Co-extensive" was
one of these points for me, a little reminder that I cannot assume everyone
uses words in the same way. To me, an opportunity for clarification and
further education.

Thanks so much for your help.

Monica


-----Original Message-----
From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
Behalf Of Andy Blunden
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:30 PM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: Re: [xmca] Re: ye

Yes, that's exactly it, Monica. I didn't realise you weren't a native speaker.

Just a warning/qualification on what I have said. I am not claiming that the concepts of Activity and Discourse ought to be identified; clearly they indicate different traditions of scientific analysis which pick out different objects from the flow of human life. I think I am suggesting though that both sciences ought to expand their self-concept so as to assimilate the gains of the other, creating a single, nuanced concept of Discursive Activity. This of course has nothing to do with assimilating practical actions with word meaning. But the distinction between practical intelligence and verbal thinking/action is developmentally overcome, ontologically, but also historically, I think.

Andy

Monica Hansen wrote:
Thanks, Andy. This does help. "Co" meaning the threads of activity and discourse can extend together, at the same time. Like co-chairs. I was following you! Thanks for the clarification. My misunderstanding was an example of how my discourse was not co-extending with yours. J I think I know English, but I am always learning new Discourses with a capital D.

Monica



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