Re: [xmca] help on conscious awareness etc

[Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>]

Larry,
I am not at all sure that ability to lie is actually relevant to what I 
need, remembering one's own thoughts probably isn't either, but I want 
to know what was claimed in respect of Vygotsky's use of the concept of 
"conscious awareness" [/osoznanie/]. Vygotsky does not see /osoznanie 
/as something which one gains with respect to the entirety of 
consciousness all at once. It takes a lifetime to even get halfway there 
after all.

Andy

Larry Purss wrote:
> Andy
>
> I'm not sure if this is too far off your path, but V. Reddy in exploring the
> "emergence of mind" in very young children wrote a chapter in her recent
> book on the topic of lying while exploring [and critquing] "theory of
> mind" in  either its "theory" or "simulation" framework. Children's emerging
> ability to deliberately lie is a major focus of her EMPIRICAL studies.  She
> certainly has a perspective on the emerging capacity of conscious
> awareness.   Where are you going with this line of inquiry?
>
> Larry
> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
> > On 7 August 2011 09:00, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
> >
> >     
> > > A few years ago we were discussing conscious awareness and people
> > >       
> > reported
> >     
> > > research on children remembering what they were thinking about an hour
> > >       
> > ago,
> >     
> > > and children's ability to deliberately lie, in this context, as ways of
> > > looking into conscious awareness of psychological functions.
> > >
> > > Can anyone either point me to the discussion, mentioned the name of the
> > > authors of these papers? I can't find it! :(
> > >
> > >
> > >       
> > Results for searching the archive for " lie " attached.   The prefix to
> > each
> > line is the suffix to the original archived mail url (so you can find it
> > with a browser).
> >
> > Huw
> >
> >
> >
> >     
> > > Andy
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