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Tony- I am unclear about how your comments point to something between individual and collective experience. Yes, the term experience evokes misunderstandings, but have you tried culture recently as a problem free alternative? :-) Might temporal aspects of "an experience" play a role in the individual:collective distinction? Would that be an avenue to distinguishing an intermediate process? mike On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Tony Whitson <twhitson@udel.edu> wrote: > Thanks, Andy, that is helpful. > > The Dewey is posted here: > https://tw-curricuwiki.**wikispaces.com/Dewey--culture%**2C+experience<https://tw-curricuwiki.wikispaces.com/Dewey--culture%2C+experience> > > > On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Andy Blunden wrote: > > Herder, as I understand him, saw collective experience as an important >> facet in the formation of the character of a people. I think part of the >> problem is that "experience" has been such a contested term, Tony. Generally >> it has been co-opted by Empiricism, which is by its nature individualist and >> by definition the philosophy of experiene, but Dewey used the word in >> formulating his view. But didn't he later say that he regretted using the >> word "experience" because it led to misunderstandings? Personally, I think >> /shared/ experience is the most powerful force in changing Zeitgeist and >> individual mninds en masse. You have an experience, and then you find that >> everyone else experienced the same thing and that event then becomes a >> central focus of your collaboration with other people. What could be more >> world-changing? >> >> Andy >> >> Tony Whitson wrote: >> >>> This query is prompted by a new book: >>> >>> Peck, Don. Pinched: How the Great Recession Has Narrowed Our Futures and >>> What We Can Do About It. New York: Crown Pub., 2011. >>> >>> http://www.amazon.com/Pinched-**Great-Recession-Narrowed-** >>> Futures/dp/0307886522<http://www.amazon.com/Pinched-Great-Recession-Narrowed-Futures/dp/0307886522> >>> / >>> >>> in which the author looks more deeply into predictable ramifications of >>> the >>> current economic situation than I have seen in other recent work. >>> >>> >>> Based on historical, sociological, and other literatures and modes of >>> research, the author argues that what we're dealing with now is not just >>> a >>> wave in a recurring cycle. He predicts lasting changes that he expects to >>> deeply impact different generational cohorts for decades to come. >>> >>> >>> His argument is plausible, at least, to me. But it prompts me to wonder >>> about experience that is really collective experience, as opposed to >>> individual experience. >>> >>> >>> Exposing my ignorance, I realize that I can't think of literature on the >>> nature and structure of collective experience. It seems like there must >>> be a >>> lot; but I can't think of it. It also seems like xmca is a likely place >>> to >>> find people who would be interested, and would know about such literature >>> (although it's not on-topic in the current threads). >>> >>> >>> I'm thinking of my first earthquake experience last month as an example >>> of >>> an individual experience. It was totally unlike anything I'd ever >>> experienced before, and it took me a few seconds to even recognize that >>> an >>> earthquake is what was happening (we don't have those in Delaware). I was >>> at >>> my desk, at home, by myself when it happened. >>> Of course, the experience was mediated after the fact from my >>> sociocultural >>> awareness of earthquakes. Still, I think it was an individual experience >>> in >>> the moment, compared with the collective experience that Don Peck is >>> writing >>> about -- an experience of events and developments over time, in which the >>> experience of others participates, throughout, in the experience of any >>> one. >>> >>> >>> I am thinking that there might be something else that could be called >>> "shared experience," intermediate between individual and collective >>> experience. >>> >>> >>> Does this make any sense? Is this question of interest to anyone? Or am I >>> naïvely wondering about things that have been well developed in the >>> >>> literature? >>> >>> >>> I would be interested if anyone has ideas or references to share on this. >>> >>> ______________________________**____________ >>> _____ >>> xmca mailing list >>> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu >>> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/**listinfo/xmca<http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >> ------------ >> *Andy Blunden* >> Joint Editor MCA: http://www.informaworld.com/** >> smpp/title~db=all~content=**g932564744<http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/title%7Edb=all%7Econtent=g932564744> >> Home Page: http://home.mira.net/~andy/ >> Book: http://www.brill.nl/default.**aspx?partid=227&pid=34857<http://www.brill.nl/default.aspx?partid=227&pid=34857> >> >> ______________________________**____________ >> _____ >> xmca mailing list >> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu >> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/**listinfo/xmca<http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca> >> >> > Tony Whitson > UD School of Education > NEWARK DE 19716 > > twhitson@udel.edu > ______________________________**_ > > "those who fail to reread > are obliged to read the same story everywhere" > -- Roland Barthes, S/Z (1970) > __________________________________________ > _____ > xmca mailing list > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > > __________________________________________ _____ xmca mailing list xmca@weber.ucsd.edu http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca