Re: [xmca] [Mind Culture Activity] Andy Blunden changed the group description

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I'm not a refusenik, but I do find that it is not an effective tool for the forms of communication I want to sustain. It refuses to become 'ready-to-hand' - like a Microsoft product, it is always trying to inform me of something I already know, or something I don't need to know. But other people enjoy it and find it useful, which is great. My reasons for suggesting we keep our XMCA discussions on this list serve are different: they are the archiving and access issues, not the clunkiness of Facebook. Martin On Feb 5, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Bruce Robinson wrote: > Am I the last person in the world to be a Facebook refusenik? I have resisted joining because of privacy and control issues plus knowing that if I did it would take too much of my time. > > I am on Twitter though. Maybe we could hold XMCA discussions there - 140 characters to explain the ZPD! > > Bruce Robinson > > Christine Schweighart wrote: >> Hi, >> I recently made posts to facebook, I'd been discussing related topics on >> xmca - but the threads had fizzled and an opening appeared on Facebook >> which I related. [I discovered more about Gendlin and both he and Vasilyuk >> both value 'the peripheral' in very different ways examining >> 'experiencing}. I acquired very helpful URL links to read about Gendlin. >> I began by commenting that Facebook could not be searched - and was aware >> that this was a temporal 'island'. However if the rare occurence happens >> would it be worthwhile to say:'Let's transfer this over to xmca'? The >> archiving and searching through the LCHC site is quite helpful - but XMCA >> itself - I haven't figured out how to search well. As it works in e-mail >> postings, I find I search my mailbox for recent topics if I find I want to >> remember something that comes back to be 'important' again. >> >> Facebook has potential for opening to people who do not know about xmca , >> just through the topic of the group -through curiosity. Perhaps this >> article might be interesting to read to think about what Facebook might >> 'do' that the listserve wouldn't? >> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/opinion/sunday/the-death-of-the-cyberflaneur.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all >> Christine. >> >> On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote: >> >> >>> There is no cause for alarm. The FaceBook page has been there since >>> November 2007 and posts have been few and far between other than the odd >>> announcement by me. A message only goes on the FaceBook page if you put it >>> there. There is no prospect whatever of xmca being replaced by a FaceBook >>> page. >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> Robert Lake wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Dear Andy, >>>> My postings are short and infrequent but I they are addresses to XCMA >>>> discussion board, not Facebook. >>>> >>>> Thanks for allowing us to have a voice. >>>> Robert Lake >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net <mailto: >>>> ablunden@mira.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well Mike, you managed to make this comment simultaneously on >>>> FaceBook and xmca. Well done. That's a first. And as a result 2 >>>> xmca-ers have just joined the FaceBook group. >>>> >>>> What you did is something someone can do if they choose to comment >>>> on FaceBook via email (which personally I don't) and send it to >>>> two destinations at the same time. Maybe Bruce could automate >>>> that, but I really don't see any value, in general, in duplicating >>>> the sometimes-intense discussions on xmca to a little FaceBook >>>> page, unless it is specifically about FaceBook,. >>>> >>>> But I too, would like to know what others think. >>>> Andy >>>> http://www.facebook.com/**groups/14528630028/<http://www.facebook.com/groups/14528630028/> >>>> >>>> mike cole wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Andy-- I am a little confused about the facebook and email >>>> versions of >>>> xmca/mca. They are somewhat different media with different social >>>> affordances; sometimes more social stuff get done >>>> on xmca, sometimes important theoretical ideas are discussed >>>> in the >>>> ambience of facebook. >>>> >>>> No experience here. What would people like? >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Andy Blunden < >>>> notification+h-7-_um_@**facebookmail.com<notification%2Bh-7-_um_@facebookmail.com> >>>> <mailto:notification%2Bh-7-_**um_@facebookmail.com<notification%252Bh-7-_um_@facebookmail.com>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> ** >>>> Andy Blunden posted in Mind Culture >>>> Activity<http://www.facebook.**com/n/?groups%2F14528630028%** >>>> 2F10151247504060029%2F&mid=**597e9aaG3212ac93G84b5dc0G96&** >>>> bcode=lDR5AtCk&n_m=lchcmike%**40gmail.com<http://www.facebook.com/n/?groups%2F14528630028%2F10151247504060029%2F&mid=597e9aaG3212ac93G84b5dc0G96&bcode=lDR5AtCk&n_m=lchcmike%40gmail.com> >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/n/?**groups%2F14528630028%** >>>> 2F10151247504060029%2F&mid=**597e9aaG3212ac93G84b5dc0G96&** >>>> bcode=lDR5AtCk&n_m=lchcmike%**40gmail.com<http://www.facebook.com/n/?groups%2F14528630028%2F10151247504060029%2F&mid=597e9aaG3212ac93G84b5dc0G96&bcode=lDR5AtCk&n_m=lchcmike%40gmail.com> >>>> . >>>> [image: Mind Culture Activity is the journal >>>> for...]<http://www.facebook.**com/n/?profile.php&id=** >>>> 813495827&mid=**597e9aaG3212ac93G84b5dc0G96&** >>>> bcode=lDR5AtCk&n_m=lchcmike%**40gmail.com<http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=813495827&mid=597e9aaG3212ac93G84b5dc0G96&bcode=lDR5AtCk&n_m=lchcmike%40gmail.com> >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/n/?**profile.php&id=813495827&mid=** >>>> 597e9aaG3212ac93G84b5dc0G96&**bcode=lDR5AtCk&n_m=lchcmike%**40gmail.com<http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=813495827&mid=597e9aaG3212ac93G84b5dc0G96&bcode=lDR5AtCk&n_m=lchcmike%40gmail.com> >>>> Andy >>>> Blunden<http://www.facebook.**com/n/?profile.php&id=** >>>> 813495827&mid=**597e9aaG3212ac93G84b5dc0G96&** >>>> bcode=lDR5AtCk&n_m=lchcmike%**40gmail.com<http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=813495827&mid=597e9aaG3212ac93G84b5dc0G96&bcode=lDR5AtCk&n_m=lchcmike%40gmail.com> >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/n/?**profile.php&id=813495827&mid=** >>>> 597e9aaG3212ac93G84b5dc0G96&**bcode=lDR5AtCk&n_m=lchcmike%**40gmail.com<http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=813495827&mid=597e9aaG3212ac93G84b5dc0G96&bcode=lDR5AtCk&n_m=lchcmike%40gmail.com> >>>> 6:41pm >>>> Feb 4 >>>> Mind Culture Activity is the journal for >>>> Cultural-Historical Activity >>>> Theory - 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