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Coincidentally just listened to Stephen Fry's radio programme on the English language on BBC Radio 4 which dealt with intonation, what it can convey and when particular patterns of sound are considered appropriate in spoken - largely UK - English. Emphasis, pitch patterns, sound shapes all implying shades of meaning or feeling which I think we recognise but aren't necessarily consciously aware of apart from adaptations required for talking to babies or dogs... Bruce R Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com> wrote: >Joseph, >music can't be the only way that we "know" what words mean - otherwise >this >email would be completely incomprehensible and Chomsky would have been >out >of a job long ago! > >But you do point to a very important aspect of language that linguistic >anthropologists refer to as "indexicality", and which most >Enlightenment >thinkers (following Kant, e.g., Chomsky) see as largely irrelevant to >the >meaning of language (what we might say is the polar opposite of your >position, Joseph). So you present an important corrective. We should be >cautious, though, how far in the other direction we let the pendulum >swing... > >sometimes behave so strangely >sometimes behave so strangely >sometimes behave so strangely >[I can still hear the music...] > >-greg > > >On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Joseph Gilbert ><joeg4us@roadrunner.com>wrote: > >> The sound aspect of words is perceived as we perceive music. That is >how >> we "know" what it means. Music is the universal language. The sounds >of our >> words is the universal language. We are moved, literally, by the >sounds of >> our voices. The sounds of all our vowels and consonants relate to >emotions. >> Our world-view, shared by others within our language group, is >established >> by our experience of this emotional affect of our spoken words >coupled with >> their referential function. When we verbalize, we feel the sounds >while >> thinking of the things. Therefore we associate the feelings of the >sounds >> of our words with the things to which we refer with them. Of course, >the >> feelings are associated with the sounds of the words, not directly >with the >> things. If we did not associate the sounds with the things, we would >not >> have a clue as to the meaning of our world. This misassociation >creates our >> only consensus information as to the meaning of our world. We ORDer >our >> world with our wORD. >> >> Joseph Gilbert >> >> On Aug 21, 2012, at 8:30 PM, Greg Thompson wrote: >> >> > and I just remembered where I first heard this - on Radio Lab. Here >is >> the >> > show, listen while you work... >> > >> > http://www.radiolab.org/2007/sep/24/behaves-so-strangely/ >> > >> > -greg >> > >> > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Greg Thompson < >> greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>wrote: >> > >> >> Here is the psychologist's version of speech to song: >> >> http://philomel.com/asa156th/mp3/Sound_Demo_1.mp3 >> >> >> >> for more, check out: >> >> http://deutsch.ucsd.edu/psychology/pages.php?i=212 >> >> >> >> Be sure to listen through all of the demos (the first one is the >longest >> >> one), and listen to them in order. >> >> >> >> Enjoy... >> >> >> >> EVERYBODY SING: >> >> >> >> sometimes behave so strangely >> >> sometimes behave so strangely >> >> sometimes behave so strangely >> >> sometimes behave so strangely >> >> sometimes behave so strangely >> >> sometimes behave so strangely >> >> sometimes behave so strangely >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Anton Yasnitsky ><the_yasya@yahoo.com >> >wrote: >> >> >> >>> Futhermore, language as music -- >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBFZsm-dnBs >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> :) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ________________________________ >> >>> From: Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu> >> >>> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>; >> >>> "LLED7408-2012@listserv. uga. edu >(LLED7408-2012@listserv.uga.edu)" < >> >>> LLED7408-2012@listserv.uga.edu>; "dave.smags@live.com" < >> >>> dave.smags@live.com>; Jane Farrell <jefarrell@mac.com>; " >> >>> star_karashii@hotmail.com" <star_karashii@hotmail.com>; Anne >> Smagorinsky >> >>> <annesmagorinsky@me.com> >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 6:27:18 PM >> >>> Subject: [xmca] Victor Wooten: Music as a Language >> >>> >> >>> http://ed.ted.com/lessons/victor-wooten-music-as-a-language >> >>> >> >>> __________________________________________ >> >>> _____ >> >>> xmca mailing list >> >>> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu >> >>> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca >> >>> __________________________________________ >> >>> _____ >> >>> xmca mailing list >> >>> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu >> >>> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D. >> >> Sanford I. Berman Post-Doctoral Scholar >> >> Laboratory of Comparative Human Cognition >> >> Department of Communication >> >> University of California, San Diego >> >> http://ucsd.academia.edu/GregoryThompson >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D. >> > Sanford I. Berman Post-Doctoral Scholar >> > Laboratory of Comparative Human Cognition >> > Department of Communication >> > University of California, San Diego >> > http://ucsd.academia.edu/GregoryThompson >> > __________________________________________ >> > _____ >> > xmca mailing list >> > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu >> > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca >> >> __________________________________________ >> _____ >> xmca mailing list >> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu >> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca >> > > > >-- >Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D. >Sanford I. 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