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we try to please, and on those rare occasions when we succeed. memory sometimes speaks. mike On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote: > I followed your advice, Mike, and the Google search turned up Yrjo and > Chuck discussing this same topic on xmca in 1996. :) It also drew my > attention to the new XMCA searchable archive, which not only had > 16-year-old conversations but was up to date to today, so included in the > same abstract with Yrjo and Chuck in 1996, was Chuck and Andy in 2012! Very > good work, Etienne or Ivan or Bruce or whoever is doing that work. > > Andy > > mike cole wrote: > >> There are many places to access Yrjo's ideas about ascending from the >> abstract to the concrete. Searching on Engestrom "abstract to concrete" >> should provide plenty of examples. >> mike >> >> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:05 AM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net <mailto: >> ablunden@mira.net>> wrote: >> >> You have to buy the journal or purchase a copy of the article here: >> http://www.tandfonline.com/**toc/hmca20/19/3<http://www.tandfonline.com/toc/hmca20/19/3> >> >> >> Sorry. That's how it works. We are allowed one article per issue >> for free distribution on xmca only. >> >> Andy >> >> >> Nektarios Alexi wrote: >> >> >> Can we have the whole article? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu >> <mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.**ucsd.edu<xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu>> >> on behalf of Andy Blunden >> Sent: Thu 11/15/2012 6:24 PM >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >> Subject: [xmca] Abstract to Concrete >> >> Taylor & Francis allows xmca only discuss one article per >> issue, but I >> see no reason why we couldn't discuss this excerpt from >> Engestrom's >> paper. It concerns "rising from the abstract to the concrete," >> which we >> were recently discussing, but without resolution. >> >> -------------------------- >> >> Ascending from the abstract to the concrete is achieved >> through specific >> epistemic or learning actions. Together these actions form an >> expansive >> cycle or spiral. An ideal-typical sequence of epistemic actions in >> ascending from the abstract to the concrete may be described >> as follows: >> >> . The first action is that of questioning, criticizing, or >> rejecting some aspects of the accepted practice and existing >> wisdom. For >> the sake of simplicity, we will call this action questioning. >> >> . The second action is that of analyzing the >> situation. Analysis >> involves mental, discursive or practical transformation of the >> situation >> in order to find out origins and explanatory mechanisms. >> >> . The third action is that of modeling a new explanatory >> relationship in some publicly observable and transmittable >> medium. This >> means constructing an explicit, simplified model of the new >> idea, a germ >> cell, that explains the problematic situation and offers a >> perspective >> for resolving and transforming it. >> >> . The fourth action is that of examining the model, >> running, >> operating, and experimenting on it in order to fully grasp its >> dynamics, >> potentials, and limitations. >> >> . The fifth action is that of implementing the model, >> concretizing it by means of practical applications, >> enrichments, and >> conceptual extensions. >> >> . The sixth and seventh actions are those of >> reflecting on and >> evaluating the process and consolidating its outcomes into a >> new stable >> form of practice. >> >> >> -------------------- >> >> MCA 19(1) pp. 288-289. >> >> Andy >> >> mike cole wrote: >> > Dear Colleagues-- >> > >> > I have been reminded of an issue that has been nagging at me >> for some time, >> > that we have not had a discussion of any of the articles in >> the special >> > issue of MCA called "concepts in the wild." The article >> selected by a plurality of >> > voters was by Chuck Bazerman on concepts in the process of >> writing. But no one has >> > commented on the article. That seems to me a shame. In fact, >> the entire >> > issue, with its stellar set of authors and papers is worth >> discussing, and I >> > figure there will be more articles on this general theme in >> the time to come, spanning as it does, the story of all those >> practice in which we acquire and deploy concepts in organizing >> our social life and experience the world. >> > >> ______________________________**____________ >> _____ >> xmca mailing list >> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> >> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/**listinfo/xmca<http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca> >> >> >> -- ------------------------------**------------------------------ >> **------------ >> *Andy Blunden* >> Home Page: http://home.mira.net/~andy/ <http://home.mira.net/%7Eandy/ >> **> >> Book: http://www.brill.nl/concepts >> http://ucsd.academia.edu/**AndyBlunden<http://ucsd.academia.edu/AndyBlunden> >> >> ______________________________**____________ >> _____ >> xmca mailing list >> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> >> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/**listinfo/xmca<http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca> >> >> >> > -- > ------------------------------**------------------------------** > ------------ > *Andy Blunden* > Home Page: http://home.mira.net/~andy/ > Book: http://www.brill.nl/concepts > http://ucsd.academia.edu/**AndyBlunden<http://ucsd.academia.edu/AndyBlunden> > > ______________________________**____________ > _____ > xmca mailing list > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/**listinfo/xmca<http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca> > __________________________________________ _____ xmca mailing list xmca@weber.ucsd.edu http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca