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Dear all to add to this discussion: attached is a paper* * *Harris, L. 1985. Teaching the right brain: Historical perspective on a contemporary educational fad. In C.T. Best (Ed.), Hemispheric function and collaboration in the child. Orlando: Academic Press.* so the problem of misusing neuro- research data is not new. I like this paper and use it since then in neuropsychology course, which I am teaching now for educators. BTW L.Harris visited Luria in 1975. Bella Kotik-Friedgut On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:49 AM, monica.hansen < monica.hansen@vandals.uidaho.edu> wrote: > Mike, > All I meant, Mike, is that it is not neuroscience that is bad or to blame > for the seductive quality of what passes for factual support of opinion. I > was joking about blaming the rhetoricians more than the neuroscientists. > > I am not a big fan of blame and/causal relationships, actually. I just > find it more productive as a person and as a teacher and as a researcher to > focus on activities in development and how they can be influenced for the > positive, knowing that the positive is sometimes more or less easily > defined. > > I don't know if there is a singular cause for the problem of crime or > poverty, and therefore, responsibility for something with multiple layers > of complexity, such as the individual development of a child in a > family/community of poverty, in larger community, in a government, in a > world, can't be ended by implicating a singular cause that can be > identified and put aside to make us all feel better about our luxuries. > However, I do know that it is good for children to have food and trusting, > nurturing, social relationships. So I start there every day with the > children I have contact with in my life and work outward. > > Responsibility comes at all levels with the people who do or do not choose > to take responsibility and that includes neuroscientists and rhetoricians. > It includes those who don't even realize the implications of their actions. > It includes me. > > One of the books that I am appreciating right now for a non-traditional > view on neuroscience research is Jaak Panksepp's Archaelogy of the Mind. > Panksepp is also the author of Affective Neuroscience and takes a more > compassionate approach to rats and children and still manages to produce > some viable bits of neuroscience. > > Let's keep going after these false arguments that don't serve to clarify > the actions of anyone who cares in regard to the well-being and development > of all children. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On > Behalf Of mike cole > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 1:55 PM > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Subject: Re: [xmca] Fwd: "The Tip of the Hippocampus"(!) > > Monika-- > > One prominent developmental neuroscientist I quote somewhere likens the > environments of poor kids to rats in cages in isolation. > > Who do I turn to looking for responsibility for such voluntarily offered > opinions, back by the authority of "developmental science" in venues that > affect public policy including the treatment of poor kids and their > families? > > mike > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > On 27 November 2012 15:11, monica.hansen > > <monica.hansen@vandals.uidaho.edu>wrote: > > > > > This is my favorite quote of this piece, Mike: "Neuroscience has > > > joined company with other totalizing worldviews - Marxism, > > > Freudianism, critical theory - that have been victim to overuse and > misapplication." > > > > > > I also like the term "brain porn". > > > > > > I don't think it is the fault of neuroscientists, however, that > > > everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon and use what passes for the > > > most respected form of evidence. I think that little bit of wanting > > > to formulate an argument with proper support has to go to the > rhetoricians. > > > > > > > > And behind the rhetoricians lie the readers. > > > > Huw > > > > > > > > > Monica > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu > > > [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] > > On > > > Behalf Of mike cole > > > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 10:51 AM > > > To: eXtended Mind, Culture,Activity > > > Subject: [xmca] Fwd: "The Tip of the Hippocampus"(!) > > > > > > This article from the NY Times was forwarded it to me. I thought it > > > might be of interest to others on the list. > > > mike > > > > > > > > > Date: 2012/11/25 > > > Subject: "The Tip of the Hippocampus"(!) > > > > > > __________________________________________ > > > _____ > > > xmca mailing list > > > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > > > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > > > > > __________________________________________ > > _____ > > xmca mailing list > > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > > > __________________________________________ > _____ > xmca mailing list > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > > > __________________________________________ > _____ > xmca mailing list > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > -- Sincerely yours Bella Kotik-Friedgut
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