XMCA Mail 2005_02: Re: LSV-& Dialogical Self

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Re: LSV-& Dialogical Self

Similarly, Wertsch (somewhere, following I think Leont'ev) equates setting
with activity. p
At 09:45 AM 2/13/2005 -0800, you wrote:
>Nate-
>
>So you disagree with Engestrom and Kutti (working in a Finnish
>context!) that from an AT perspective, the activity is the context?
>I personally am not inclined to reduce
>the issue to a linear temporal dimension. The zygote, a single cell to
>begin with,
>replicates as many identical cells that then begin to differentiate
>simulatneously with the beginning of exchange of fluids with the
>fallopian tube. Emergence seems to defy linear causal think and
>invites the idea that there is a constant, dynamic, movement between
>dialectically related opposites, such as sense/meaning, etc. At least
>that is how I
>read LSV in Thinking and Speech.
>mike
>
>
>On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:27:20 -0600,
>willthereallsvpleasespeakup who-is-at nateweb.info
><willthereallsvpleasespeakup who-is-at nateweb.info> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Mike Cole wrote:
> >
> > >If the personality is the highest form of sociality, the unit of
> > >analysis for understanding the "whole person," what does it mean to
> > >talk about relationships BETWEEN the personality
> > >and its social context? Is context outside and personality inside? Really?
> > >
> > >mike
> > >
> > >
> > Would it not be a time question? In embryol stage it would be external
> > (context, activity, setting etc), and then it latter becomes
> > internalyzed (bi-directional process) as personality. The question
> > inner/outer or internal/external is a matter of when.
> >
> > I personally dislike the word context and am not sure what it means
> > concretely. It seems to be one of those words that are thrown around and
> > then become meaningless constructs. One benefit of AT in my view is
> > that it attempts to explain the system one is engaged in.
> >
> > First, and this can be difficult in the "american context", we have to
> > concur that both are social entities. So, often personality and
> > individual are counterposed to some social category.
> >
> > --
> > Website: http://nateweb.info/
> > Blog: http://levvygotsky.blogspot.com/
> > Email: willthereallsvpleasespeakup who-is-at nateweb.info
> >
> > "The zone of proximal development defines those functions that have not
> yet matured but are in the process of maturation, functions that will
> mature tomorrow but are currently in an embryonic state. These functions
> could be termed the buds or flowers of development rather than
> > the "fruits" of development. The actual developmental level
> characterizes mental development retrospectively, while the zone of
> proximal development characterizes mental development prospectively."
> > - L.S.V.
> >
> >