Re: [xmca] University & Conformity

Dear all, I am very thankful for the discussion that is taking place,
which helps me to reflect on my work and life at the University.

I am going to attend a Conference for School Psychology and will not
participate actively in the next days.

I am looking forward discussing in-vivo with you at the Symposium
organized by G. Wells in S.Diego,

Michalis Kontopodis

research associate
humboldt university berlin
tel.: +49 (0) 30 2093 3716
fax.: +49 (0) 30 2093 3739
http://www.csal.de
http://www.iscar.org/de/culthistanthpsy/

On May 28, 2008, at 6:27 AM, David Preiss wrote:

> Hi Andy,
>
> Any chance you could elaborate more about this "new liberal arts
> degree" idea? Sounds like it suggests more than what can be inferred
> from your post,
>
> David
>
> On May 27, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Andy Jocuns wrote:
>
>> Hope I am not replying to this one too late, but Mike's
>> observations really
>> strike a chord with me. Particularily observation #1 which sums up my
>> undergrad experience @ Penn State. I have to say that I feel like I
>> did not
>> learn how to learn until I got grad school. Yeah there were things
>> that
>> interested me that I retained for my own purposes but the
>> assessments in
>> general were pretty bad. My lack of interest in memorizing random
>> tidbits of
>> a textbook reminded me too much of basic training, which when i was
>> undergrad i was trying to forget. Sadly I remember more from my
>> military
>> experience -- though that's a different story.
>>
>> Right now I am on a project which is studying engineering
>> undergrads, and I
>> am often struck by how engineering educators suggest that an
>> engineering
>> degree is the "new liberal arts degree". There seems to be a few
>> meanings
>> attached to this phrase, but it gets under my skin how much the
>> "old liberal
>> arts degree" means little of anything anymore. In order to do
>> anything with
>> such a degree, you need to have some graduate degree. So how and
>> when did
>> the bachelor's degree become so proletarian? It seems you can say
>> the same
>> about a master's degree as well now.
>>
>> andy
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