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Re: [xmca] Announcement: Online community for the history of [mostly Soviet] psychology (mostly in Russian)

From: Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya who-is-at yahoo.com>
Date: Fri Jun 13 2008 - 09:59:04 PDT

--- On Fri, 6/13/08, Mike Cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anton-- I spoke with Pat Kolb at Sharpe and she confirmed
> with Pentti that
> one electronic article per issue will be made available,
> maybe
> already has been. Perhaps it is not useful in so far as
> these are mostly
> Russian readers.

This is a really great news, Mike! As you might remember we were thinking about posting this stuff at x-jreep :) -- so, perhaps it will really help! I have come up with several other functions of this prospective x-jreep community, for instance, giving the Russian authors the chance of posting some of their stuff that ther want to present to the Western readers without the need to line-up for a peer-reviewed publication process and having a chance of getting a feedback from the other side of the "Iron curtain" :). There can be several other interesting functions and applications of this x-jreep, but the specific format of such community needs to be discussed, at a later time.

 
> I'll work on weblinke from LCHC to the site.

Thanks, great!
 
> I would like that Sokolova article. I think I may have
> "met" her at
> symposium Sasha Surmava organized via video.

Quite likely. This is how she looks (from the web-site of Al. Surmava): http://www.voxnet.ru/~monada/news.php?id=62&lng=eng

> Congrats on getting this started. Not sure where it will
> get to with
> American audiences, but clearly an additional resource.

Depending on the interest in such stuff and response rate from the colleagues xmca-ites we will either launch the x-jreep specialized community full-scale or, alternatively, will keep advertising the psyhistorik one, or will even probably do nothing about that :).

> Any stuff that gives insight into Luria's activities I
> would of course like
> to get and put on the LCHC Luria site.

The only concern I have about this is possible violation of copyright law (that I am not quite familiar with): are you certain the stuff can be posted on the LCHC site publicly and free?

Anton.
 
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Anton Yasnitsky
> <the_yasya@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > --- On Fri, 6/13/08, Mike Cole
> <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Anton.. The site looks great and active.
> Congratulatinos.
> >
> > Thanks, Mike!
> >
> > > 1. I understand that Sharpe has permitted JREEP
> to post an
> > > article for
> > > discussion a la XMCA. Is that happening?
> >
> > I am afraid NOT, but I believe we still can negotiate
> the issue with them.
> > Another thing is that, as I realized, we don't
> really need the articles and
> > can really manage without them.
> >
> > > 2/ What does one have to do to join? For example,
> if I
> > > wanted to ask about
> > > the actual research of Price with Luria,
> >
> > In this case, I guess you should first create an
> account (which you have
> > already done), then login with your user name and
> password (if by chance you
> > don't know/remember them your colleague should
> remember them) -- and voila -
> > either post a message or respond to somebody
> else's contribution. You will
> > need to click either Comment on this or Reply to this
> links (all this is
> > fairly intuitive). The one to whom you reply will
> receive an email to her
> > mailbox, and the same obviously holds when somebody
> responds to your
> > message.
> >
> > > or try to figure out what it takes to get to see
> data from
> > > the twin studies
> > > (I have only seen one article in English and
> > > the little that Mironova (?) and Luria did that
> is
> > > summarized in the Luria
> > > autobiography, to whom would I turn?
> >
> > If you want to see these specific articles perhaps the
> best person to turn
> > to is myself: I guess I have them all :). Anyway, when
> you feel like asking
> > for some other stuff I guess you can easily post a new
> message to this
> > community (in order to do so, you should be a member
> of the community,--this
> > is a moderated community,--which means you will need
> to join the community
> > first, which is not a bog deal).
> >
> > > 3. Can one post in latin alphabet or only
> cyrillic?
> >
> > As you can see, for instance, here:
> >
> http://community.livejournal.com/psyhistorik/21899.html or
> here:
> >
> http://community.livejournal.com/psyhistorik/18341.html --
> one can post
> > either in both Cyrillic and Latin or in Latin
> characters only.
> >
> > > 4. Would you like a link from lchc page to the
> discusssion
> > > and perhaps vice
> > > versa?
> >
> > A link definitely would not hurt. We can make a link
> to xmca, too.
> > Furthermore. As you remember, we have created a
> community for the history of
> > Soviet psychology English-language posts only, and I
> am not sure if we
> > want/need to activate this one...
> >
> > > 5. The history of Ina Ravich Scherbo might be
> intereting
> > > for xmca members.
> > > Is her email available?
> >
> > I am sorry: Inna Ravich-Shcherbo passed away in 2004 -
> pls see
> > http://www.humanities.edu.ru/db/msg/62860
> >
> http://www.google.ca/search?q=Ravich+Scherbo+passed+away
> >
> >
> >
> > > Finally, I am very uncertain about ordering
> article on the
> > > internet from
> > > Russia. Is this just a dumb bias, or am I
> > > actually at greater risk for hacking and identify
> theft? I
> > > would like to
> > > read that sokolova article but hate sending
> > > electronic money anywhere, and to .ru in
> particular. What
> > > is your
> > > experience?
> >
> > I absolutely understand your concerns. In this case, I
> never sent money to
> > them and the main reason is that they don't accept
> credit cards, neither do
> > they work with PayPal, and I have never had time to
> master any of the
> > various systems of "webmoney" they use: for
> some reason they all seem quite
> > inconvenient to me... Other than that, so far so
> good, I am fine with
> > ordering books at, say, ozon.ru and paying with my
> credit card.
> >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Anton Yasnitsky
> > > <the_yasya@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just fyi:
> > > http://community.livejournal.com/psyhistorik/
> > > >
> > > > Anyone interested?
> > > >
> > > > Any questions?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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