Re: [xmca] text "development and desintegration"

No need to apologize for your English at all, Achilles!
You provide a great reference in Kozulin's book that should be accessible to
readers of
XMCA, and in the article from Vygotsky reader.

Abrigado!
:-)
mike
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Achilles Delari Junior <
achilles_delari@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Joao, Eugene and Mike,
>
> The original text, in Russian we have in Russian Wikipedia,
> but the link seems to be broken. But I have downloded it
> before. (atached here)
>
> I wonder that the 'raspada' (desintragration/decay) problem
> is related not only to the defetology matters, but to the
> pathopsychology's too (like schyzophrenia and Pick's desease
> - Kozulin presents this question in 'Vygotsky - a biography
> of ideas' (cap. 6 - Pychopathology and Regression); And there
> is a Vygotsky´s article in the Vygotsky Reader about
> 'Though in Schyzophrenia' (I translate to Portuguese); the text
> about Pick's desease by Vygotsky, Samukhin and Bierenbaum 'K
> voprosu o dementsii pri bolezni Pika - klinitcheskoe i eksperimen-
> tal'no issledovanie' we find only in Russian too, Joao obtains it
> here in the list and pass to me), but I don´t know yet. I can try
> translate the Russian 'Problema razvitia i raspada vyschikh
> psikhitcheskikh funktsii', aidded by dictionaires and another
> on-line translation tools, trying to learn Russian psychological
> vocabulaire, but if Eugene did it, its better.
>
> Thanks. Excuse me about my wrong English writing, ok? But I
> thinkthat I can understand you very well, even so.
>
> Achilles
> Umuarama, July 4, 2008
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:47:35 -0700
> > From: lchcmike@gmail.com
> > To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> > Subject: Re: [xmca] text
> > CC: borlogic@orexovo.net
> >
> > Hi Joao & Eugene--
> >
> > I do not know of this article in English, although probably we can get it
> > translated if it is not. Meantime, I can recommend two sources
> > that should help:
> >
> > Vygotsky, L. (1993). The collected works of L.S.Vygotsky. Vol.2: The
> > fundamentals of
> > defectology (abnormal psychology and learning disabilities) (R.W.Rieber &
> > A.S. Carton,
> > Eds.). NY: Plenum Press.
> >
> > and
> >
> > Katarina Rodina's article which can be found at lchc as follows:
> >
> > http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Paper/VygotskyDisabilityEJSNE2007.pdf
> >
> > AR Luria's work should be relevant in several places.
> >
> > Perhaps our Russian bibliophiles can come up with an origanal for
> > translation?
> >
> > mike
> > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:58 AM, Joao Batista
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Dear friends... somebody has this text in english:
> > >
> > > 'Problema razvitia i raspada vyschikh psikhitcheskikh funktsii'
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Joao Martins
> > >
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