RE: [xmca] RE: mental health

I would suggest
- French "psychotechnique" or "Psychologie Appliquée"
- Spanish "Psicotecnia " or "La psicología aplicada"
- English "Psychotechnics" or "Applied Psychology"

Sources:
1) http://community.livejournal.com/psyhistorik/15502.html
2) http://fs-morente.filos.ucm.es/docentes/carpintero/Iaaphist/IAAPhist.htm

Good luck!

--- On Fri, 7/11/08, Achilles Delari Junior <achilles_delari@hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Achilles Delari Junior <achilles_delari@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [xmca] RE: mental health
> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> Received: Friday, July 11, 2008, 2:13 AM
> Mike,
>
> Only one more little question:
>
> The Russian word in Puzirei's "note 24" is
> "психотехника" (psykhotekhnika) =
> maybe "psychotechnics", not
> "psychotechnology".
> Do you agree?
>
> ("psychotechnology seems more "rough".
> Recently there was here a discussion about the problem of
> Vygostsky's potential
> and/or actual project of "social engeneering" x
> "enpowerment" in order to human kind
> (self)produce "better man"...
> {but, tekhné(Greek) = art (?)})
>
> And, in the Russian version that I have, there is not this
> interesting word "psychopraxis" that appears in
> English translation,
> but only "psykhotekhnika" again in the
> Vygotsky's text quoted by Puzirei. In my Spanish
> version, translated has "psicotecnia"...
> (Vygotski, Obras Escogidas. Tomo 1. Ed. Amelia Alvarez y
> Pablo del Rio, Madrid 1991 - p. 358)... In Portuguese:
> "psicotecnia"
> too, but... translated from the same Spanish, without more
> explanations... "psychopraxis"...
>
> Thank you.
> Achilles,
> Umuarama, July 11, 2008.
>
>
> From: achilles_delari@hotmail.com
> To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:37:50 +0000
> Subject: [xmca] RE: mental health
>
>
> Ok, Mike.
>
> See: http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Paper/Vygotsky1986b.pdf
> Vygotsky, LS (1929/1989). Concrete human psychology. Soviet
> Psychology, 27, (2), 53–77
> Russian text @ 1986 by Moscow University. Vestn. Mask.
> Un-ta. Ser. 14, Psikhologiya, 1986, No. 1, pp. 51-64.
> (Notes by Andrei Puzirey)
>
> Complete Puzirey’s notes I’ve partially quoted before:
>
> [Methodology of psychotechnology (and/or psychopraxis)]
> 24. In his work [The historical meaning of the crisis in
> psychology], ([Collected
> work]. Vol. 1, pp. 289 ff.), indiscussing the ideaof
> 'general psychology.'
> which he understood as the 'methodology of
> psychotechnology' (in the
> broad sense) or 'a philosophy of practice,'
> Vygotsky formulated one of the
> most fundamental characteristics of such a psychology: its
> orientation toward
> psychotechnology in the broad sense of the word, i.e., the
> techniques of practical
> work with the mind, its transformation, control over it,
> and its develop
> ment. Vygotsky writes, 'The goal of such a psychology
> is not Shakespearean
> concepts, as Dilthey says, but psychopraxis. i.e., a
> scientific theory that would
> result in subordination and mastery over the mind, in the
> artificial control of
> behavior.'
> (Puzirey, p. 75)
>
> [Person and illness]
> 26. This idea, which is found repeatedly in this text of
> Vygotsky's, can also
> be found in many contemporary psychologists and
> psychotherapists of the post-
> Freudian school, for example, representatives of the
> 'humanist' school,
> which attaches fundamental importance to it. However, this
> idea can also be
> found, perhaps in its clearest and most concise form, in
> the works of Thomas
> Mann. Thus, in the preface to the American one-volume
> edition on Dostoevsky
> (see T. Mann, [Collected works], Vol. 10). where he
> discusses to what extent
> the fact that Dostoevsky was apparently mentally ill (an
> epileptic) left its mark
> on his literary production, Mann insists that is not, and
> cannot be, a direct and
> unambiguous causal relationship between the nosological
> characteristics of a
> disease (even in the case of a mental disorder) and a
> person's personality traits
> and the general line of his mental development. It is
> important to know,
> according to Mann's basic idea, not what illness a
> person has, but what person
> has a particular illness. Similar thoughts can be found in
> Vygotsky's earlier
> works, particularly in those devoted to an analysis of the
> problem of character.
> See for example, the work from 1928 [The problem of the
> dynamics of child
> character], [Collected works]. Vol. 5, pp. 153, 165, and
> elsewhere. See also
> the postulate that it is not possible to determine
> unambiguously the development
> Of the Personality in terms of individual properties in
> Leont'ev's later works
> for example, [Activity Consciousness. Personality]. Moscow,
> 1975. P. 177
> and others).
> (Puzirey, p. 76)
>
> Thank you, very much.
>
> Achilles.
> Umuarama, 10 July, 2008.
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:43:13 -0700From:
> lchcmike@gmail.comTo: achilles_delari@hotmail.comSubject:
> mental health
>
> I am sorry not to respond quickly to your interesting
> recent posts,. Achilles. I will do so as soon as I can.Did
> you provide English reference for Puzerei? Very few members
> of xmca read Russian.mike
>
>
>
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