These files are maintained strictly for historical reference, research, and recordkeeping purposes,
and the content has not been altered or updated since archiving.
Content on this site may not meet current digital accessibility standards.
If you require an alternative, accessible format of any information found on this site,
please contact Bruce Jones, bjones@ucsd.edu to request an accommodation.
These files are maintained strictly for historical reference, research, and recordkeeping purposes,
and the content has not been altered or updated since archiving.
Content on this site may not meet current digital accessibility standards.
If you require an alternative, accessible format of any information found on this site,
please contact Bruce Jones, bjones@ucsd.edu to request an accommodation.
Apologies Martin, for the loose and unexplained usage of the
word "objective", by which I just meant that no value
judgment is required. And of course, if you have an (in that
sense) objective notion of progress, then OK. But I mean
there is no need to believe that "progress" means getting
better or stronger or more advanced or fit or anything such
thing. I think in the almost forgotten context of this
discussion we were talking about the socialisation of an
individual organism within its genus. That's all.
Andy
Martin Packer wrote:
> Andy,
>
> Help me with this, please. Do you mean objective as opposed to subjective, a
> personal evaluative judgment? I think I can by that. By why does an
> objective development not connote progress or improvement? Could these not
> be objective processes too?
>
> Martin
>
>
> On 10/23/08 7:28 PM, "Andy Blunden" <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
>
>> "The very terms 'development' and 'learning' are normative":
>> yes these terms are 'normative' but in an objective sense of
>> the word 'normative' in that they refer to a process between
>> a universal (or genus, community) and an individual. This
>> may be quite 'objective'. There is no need for any
>> connotation of 'progress', or "getting better", etc.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> xmca mailing list
> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
>
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andy Blunden http://home.mira.net/~andy/ +61 3 9380 9435 Skype andy.blunden Hegel's Logic with a Foreword by Andy Blunden: http://www.marxists.org/admin/books/index.htm _______________________________________________ xmca mailing list xmca@weber.ucsd.edu http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmcaReceived on Fri Oct 24 15:55:22 2008
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.8 : Fri Sep 18 2009 - 07:30:00 PDT