RE: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in English?

[Achilles Delari Junior <achilles_delari@hotmail.com>]

I guess Ulvi is talking about a afterword in Collected Works (CW) from Vygotski, in English volume 2,but in Russian volume 5 (defectology) - Sobranie Sochnienii. It is an article by E.S. Bein, T.A. Vlasova, R.E.Levina, N.G. Morozova, and Zh. I. Shif. I have the Spanish version too (Obras Escogidas)... (volume 5 has in Russian). Its a good tip, but I was really interested in the problem of concept formation... and the methodVigotski/Shif to study the problem of cientific <-> everyday concepts mutual intercourse. 
Thank you very much you both, Ulvi and Anton.
Best.
> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:48:53 -0800
> From: the_yasya@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in English?
> To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> 
> Sure. This is -- 
> 
> Shif, Z. I. Development of children in schools for mentally retarded.
> In M. Cole & I. Maltzman (Eds.), A handbook of contemporary
> Soviet psychology. New York: Basic Books, 1969
> 
> A caveat though. I would not be that sure that this work unconditionally qualifies as an example of "Vygotskian defectology", and the connection between this stuff and Vygotsky's work needs to be thoroughly explored.
> 
> Then, another caveat. There are quite a few works written and published by Vygotsky's former students and/or collaborators, so, as you certainly know, this chapter by Shif is by no means exceptional and is only a a few pages piece out of several hundred (if not thousand!) pages corpus of literature on the subject and a minor episode of a very long story.
> 
> In turn, may I ask you what exactly you mean by "Vygotsky's CW": publisher, language, the composition of the volume, etc?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: ulvi icil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com>
> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 11:24:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in English?
> 
> Hi Anton,
> Can you please cite the name of this work in English please,  nowadays I
> work on a simple introductory article on volume two on defectology of
> Vygotsky's CW , which I hope to share with xmca soon.
> 
> 
> 2010/1/15, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>:
> >
> > I personally strongly doubt any translation of this book ever existed.
> >
> > Good luck anyway!
> >
> > -- However, there is other stuff by Shif available in English, but it is
> > hardly related to her Leningrad work and represent her later Moscow work in
> > defectology...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Achilles Delari Junior <achilles_delari@hotmail.com>
> > To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> > Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 2:37:26 AM
> > Subject: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in English?
> >
> >
> > Hi XMCA
> > people…
> >
> >
> >
> > In order to
> > help another friend of mine, biologist, studying scientific concepts
> > development, I’m wonder if you have any notice about English (Spanish,
> > French,
> > etc.) publication from the following text:
> >
> >
> >
> > Shif, J. I. “Razvitie nauchnykh ponyatii u schko’nika:
> > Issledovanie k voprosu umstvenogo razvitiya shkol’nika pri obuchenii
> > obshchestvovedeniyu” [The development of scientific concepts in the school
> > child: The investigation of intellectual development of the school child in
> > social science instruction]. Moscow – Leningrad: Gosudarstvennoe
> > Uchebno-Pedagicheskoe Izdatel’stvo. 1935.
> >
> >
> >
> > I’m trying
> > the Russian high now, but we are not so prepared to actually translate
> > Russian so
> > soon, without a huge time spending… And there are many other Russian needs
> > prior at the schedule, most of that already provide thanks you all.
> >
> >
> > If you have any notice... :-)
> >
> >
> > Thank you
> > very much. Good 2010 for all.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best
> > wishes.
> >
> >
> >
> > Achilles.
> >
> >
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