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Yes, the complement of collective remembering is collective forgetting. I recommend Kundera's novel, *the book of laughter and forgetting *for interesting ideas about this and allied issues. And Bartlett is very important in these regards. mike On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote: > Mike and others discussing cultural memory and mediation > > Mike you asked us to consider Wertsch's project exploring cultural memory. > Andy's drawing my attention to the larger context of artefacts n collective > memory is particulary important for siuating "mere intersubjectivity" The > question of the social relations and mediational processes constituting > [not > influencing or determining] mere intersubjectivity. I read an artcle by Z. > Vinchenko referring to his father's legacy on collective and personal > memory > The article is "Living Memory". In that article he points out the > centrality > of "collective forgetting" as a fundamental dialectical aspect constituting > collective memory. Collective forgetting as social amnesia. Wertsch > mentions he gathered stories of Russians who lived through the horrors of > the gulag. > The issue of "exile" and the role of collective forgetting in forming > new beginnings through collective remembering. I'm connecting this to the > "debt crisis" and the "occupy wall street movement" The debt crisis as a > master MORAL narrative of collective memory with social amnesia at its > center. In North America social amnesia is a turning away and forgetting > the denial of death and violence in the formation of the Nazi regime and > the > shame of being indebted after the 1st world war. > > Vinchenko mentions Bartlett was exploring the centrality of social amnesia > to the forming of collective memory in his earlier works but when > incorporated into the activity structure of a university shited to a focus > on personal memory. Intersubjective psychoanalysis has moved away from the > notion of "repression" and now is deeply exploring "dissociation" as a > process of turning away from vulnerability and dependency at the center of > our humanness. It is easy to accept and recognize in the mother-infant > archetype but their is a denial of these dependency needs in adult > relationships. > Social amnesia and dissociation [as intersubjective social interactional > aspects of narrativity] may need to be reflected on if the "debt crisis" is > to shift from an economic master narrative to a moral master narrative. > Larry > __________________________________________ > _____ > xmca mailing list > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > __________________________________________ _____ xmca mailing list xmca@weber.ucsd.edu http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca