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Re: [xmca] For the musicians
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- From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 06:04:54 -0700
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Its those same kinds of observations that evoke the idea of perezhivanie, I
suspect,
Steve.
mike
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:30 AM, Carol Macdonald <carolmacdon@gmail.com>wrote:
> Yes, Steve, that's exactly what he was doing, just like a conductor, and he
> is THREE! I have to say I have never sent a "topic" out and got so many
> responses.
> Carol
>
> On 25 October 2011 12:59, Steve Gabosch <stevegabosch@me.com> wrote:
>
> > My personal experience of the video clip involved ways that watching the
> > boy conductor enhanced my experience of this music, which I am very fond
> of.
> > I found myself reading his motions and listening to the music through
> his
> > ears and body, especially places where he was anticipating changes - for
> > example, the way he would increase the agitation of the baton and his
> arms
> > as the music went from soft to loud in some of the great crescendo
> moments,
> > seeming to push the music forward and to greater heights with his own
> > determination and enthusiasm. A great reminder to listen to, appreciate
> and
> > truly feel music - and of the power of anticipation.
> >
> > - Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > On Oct 24, 2011, at 4:21 PM, Helen Grimmett wrote:
> >
> > Hi again,
> >>
> >> I put this link on my facebook page and Gloria Quinones commented
> "That's
> >> what I call perezhivanie!" I'd love for you to explain what you meant by
> >> that comment here Gloria - but it made me think not so much about the
> >> perezhivanie of the little boy, but about our perezhivanie as we watched
> >> it.
> >> As a musician, my previous experiences certainly gave me a unique
> >> interpretation of what was going on which would not necessarily be
> >> appreciated or understood in the same way by somebody who has never been
> >> conducted or tried to conduct an orchestra, yet their own experiences
> and
> >> expertise in other areas of life would no doubt lead to other equally
> >> interesting and emotionally stirring responses and interpretations.
> >>
> >> Whose perezhivanie were you referring to Gloria? The boy's or yours? I'd
> >> love to hear about other people's perezhivanie (emotional experience) as
> >> you
> >> watched it and how it is informed by your previous experiences (with
> >> music,
> >> young children, videoing, having a runny nose in public, dropping
> things,
> >> being in hysterics, prodigies, performing etc, etc). What resonates with
> >> you
> >> and why? Maybe this might help us work out what we mean by perezhivanie?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Helen
> >>
> >> On 24 October 2011 17:01, Helen Grimmett <helen.grimmett@monash.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Priceless! It would be fascinating to know the story behind it. I could
> >>> not
> >>> believe how well he knows the music, and his facial expressions in the
> >>> quieter, slower parts are just exquisite. Thanks for sharing Carol.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Helen
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 24 October 2011 15:30, Carol Macdonald <carolmacdon@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This little boy is a savant: he actually know the whole movement.
> Watch
> >>>> carefully and you will see he is not *following* the music, but
> >>>> orchestrating it. It doesn't say, but perhaps his father is a
> >>>> conductor.
> >>>> Interesting, because there is not such a strong developmental
> >>>> line/critical
> >>>> period for music, as most composers are highly precocious.
> >>>>
> >>>> Enjoy it, it made my day. I hope it makes yours.
> >>>>
> >>>> Carol
> >>>> (P.S. He reminded us how old he is when he picked his nose!!!)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.choralnet.org/view/**268945<
> http://www.choralnet.org/view/268945>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Be mindful. Regret nothing.
> >>>> Carol's motto.
> >>>>
> >>>> *Visiting Lecturer
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