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I don't see it, Eric. Could you explain perhaps? Andy ERIC.RAMBERG@spps.org wrote:
Very similiar to Ilyenkov's (siq) thinking on the Ideal. correct? eric -----xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu wrote: ----- To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> From: Andy Blunden Sent by: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu Date: 06/27/2013 07:28PM Subject: Re: [xmca] unit of analysis And here is another quote from the same book, further clarifying Davydov's view: The aforementioned requirements can be met only by an entirely /real/ relationship that is given in a form /that can be contemplated by the senses/. As an aspect of something concrete – that is, having its /particular/ form – it at the same time functions as a genetic basis for another whole (and in this sense it functions as a universal). Here the real, objective unity of the individual (particular) and the universal, their /connection/, which mediates the process of development of the whole, is observed” (Davydov 1990, p. 282). Andy Andy Blunden wrote: > Eric, here is what Vasily Davydov says in his book on "Generalisation": > > The uniqueness of this sort of initial abstraction appears in the > names for it: “concrete abstraction”, “the concrete-universal > relationship is the objective cell of the whole that is under > investigation”, “content-oriented abstraction”, or simply “cell”. > These names express in different ways the essence of an initial > abstraction as a simple relationship of concreteness. It > incorporates the potential of the whole, and at the same time it is > again reproduced by this whole as its general basis. In our opinion, > while all of these names are legitimate, it is advisable to use the > term /content-oriented, real abstraction/. In contrast to formal > abstraction, it is historical (it is a genetic basis), and its > content exists /concretely/, in the form of a relationship that can > be contemplated rather than merely in the mind. > > Andy > ERIC.RAMBERG@spps.org wrote: >> Been considering this in depth recently and have an idea as "germ >> cell" as an ideal of a conceptualiztion tool. >> For instance in Yro's moon phase paper the unit of analysis is in >> understanding knowledge acquisition as what the triangle of actiivy >> expands upon. >> Brazil's recent social upheavel would expand upon human subsistance >> and basic needs. >> The framework is in place for studying each of these activity systems >> (perhaps systems isn't best word and another would provide better >> clarity) with Yro's expanded triangle but because of the diversity of >> human existence the "germ cell" proposition provides a good platform >> for how to specify the utilization of the expanded triangle. >> Thinking out loud >> what do others think? >> eric>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------>> >> __________________________________________ >> _____ >> xmca mailing list >> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu >> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca >> > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Andy Blunden* Home Page: http://home.mira.net/~andy/ <http://home.mira.net/%7Eandy/> Book: http://www.brill.nl/concepts http://marxists.academia.edu/AndyBlunden __________________________________________ _____ xmca mailing list xmca@weber.ucsd.edu http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
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