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Dear Larry, Thanks for expanding how you share this interest. When you mention 'adding threads' there are the mechanics of the discussion board - where I don't intend to start threads- but it keeps happening with my postings), and then there are the tangents I am bringing into my postings. I was prompted by my surprise and pleasure that you were finding 'place' for inclusionality. Then also Tony's contribution of Antonio Machado's verse - in re-reading this I made a completely different to understanding the 'power' of the last line - the 'hidden' transformation it was very hopeful . Not bleak 'washing away' of tracks. It had not been translated well . Looking and then seeing eddying patterns, signifies that what was achieved went beyond walking even - transformation is possible , the signification is of a discovery that not only did you know how to go in the world ( and could and help others ) but you were able to swim when you thought you had to walk. Quite liberating possibility out of another frame of thinking. Maybe my translation is rubbish too - but the new reading was a bit of a revelation! And very Freire! All in one short verse.However, it still misses that this arises in social relations - where the 'swimming' is motivated by action for others then becomes apparent or helpful for oneself. Strangely I think this could be being brought out in Volker's comment on another thread. I find that xmca discussions go amazingly quickly or richly overlapping if not 'temporal' ! In this 'model' my surprise was that values and form of living markedly al-andalus actively respect a value in one of your earlier posts " It is how we are "ethically" called by the other that in*forms whether we respond or turn away from the other's call " is expressed and found in social relations today in Andalusia . It is also in finding 'motive' or generating a need in ideal maybe. So Tony's "Sedimentation is the settling of culture into formations," where "formation" (as in in*formation) is inseparably the material formation and the forming of it and the form in which it's formed." Shows that well. Though transformation is maybe not as apparent as it might be? I haven't read ingold yet:) BTW The discussion of immanence of senses I found also in Deleuze - and Guattari's interest in nomadism , was a thread I followed through a few months ago. So It is good to revisit these themes differently. It was also unexpected that Action-research should come up again, I'm interested to know more of Michael's work in this. Thanks, Christine __________________________________________ _____ xmca mailing list xmca@weber.ucsd.edu http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca