Re: [xmca] Jones on Learning under capitalism

[Robert Lake <boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>]

Haydi,
With people like you out there doing what you do, I certainly worry less :-)
Thanks so much,
Robert

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Haydi Zulfei <haydizulfei@rocketmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Robert
>
> Last night I forwarded Peter's whole message (link+download) to Helena ;
> don't worry ! Haydi
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Robert Lake <boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>
> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 November 2011, 16:04:54
> Subject: Re: [xmca] Jones on Learning under capitalism
>
>
> Hi Peter!
>
> Can you provide a link to this chapter?
>
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Helena Worthen
>
> <helena.worthen@berkeley.edu>wrote:
>
>
> > Robert, do you have the link for the Smagorinsky article?
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> >
>
> > Helena
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> >
>
> >
>
> > Helena Worthen
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> > helena.worthen@berkeley.edu
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> > 21 San Mateo Road
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> > Berkeley, CA 94707
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> > Visiting Scholar, UCB Center for Labor Research and Education
>
> > 510-828-2745
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> >
>
> > On Nov 1, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Robert Lake wrote:
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> >
>
> > > *Hi Everyone,*
>
> > > *Don't forget this from  Peter  Smagorinsky (See below).*
>
> > > *
>
> > > *
>
> > > *Robert Lake*
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> > >
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> > > In case anyone's interested, I coauthored a book chapter on Freire and
>
> > > Vygotsky. In my view, they're a hard pair to match, as we outline in
> the
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> > > chapter. I don't have the final pdf but am attaching the last version I
>
> > > have of the manuscript during editing.
>
> > > The reference:
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> > > Souto-Manning, M., & Smagorinsky, P. (2010). Freire, Vygotsky, and
> social
>
> > > justice theories in English education. In sj Miller & D. Kirkland
> (Eds.),
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> > > Change matters: Critical essays on moving social justice research from
>
> > > theory to policy (pp. 41-51). New York: Peter Lang.
>
> > >
>
> > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Tony Whitson <twhitson@udel.edu>
> wrote:
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> > >
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> > >> I don't know of anyone who's analyzed Freire in terms of CHAT, but it
>
> > >> would really interesting.
>
> > >>
>
> > >> In Freire's alphabetization/**conscientization work with adult
> peasants,
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> > >> the motivation for the activity is not literacy itself. Literacy is
>
> > >> attained as a means for conducting the activity that is constructed in
>
> > >> pursuit of motivating objects that are identified by the learners
>
> > >> themselve; and there is a systematic use of written artefacts
> mediating
>
> > the
>
> > >> activity.
>
> > >>
>
> > >> On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Silvio Marquardt wrote:
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> > >>
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> > >> Dear Ana,
>
> > >>>
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> > >>
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> > >> Could you "situate" Freire`s statement within the activity system ?
>
> > >> "Critical reading" as "Activity" seems to be something worth trying.
>
> > >> How far is the "Freire-CHAT" debate up to now ?
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Yours, Silvio
>
> > >>
>
> > >> ______________________________**__
>
> > >> From: Ana Paula B. R. Cortez <apbrcortez@yahoo.com.br>
>
> > >> To: Haydi Zulfei <haydizulfei@rocketmail.com>; "eXtended Mind,
> Culture,
>
> > >> Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011 12:10 AM
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> > >> Subject: Re: [xmca] Jones on Learning under capitalism
>
> > >>
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> > >> Hello, everyone!
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Here is Freire's definition of reading, in "Carta de Paulo Freire aos
>
> > >> professores" (Freire's letter to teachers - In Portuguese at:
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> > >> http://www.scielo.br/scielo.**php?script=sci_arttext&pid=**
>
> > >> S0103-40142001000200013<
>
> >
> http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0103-40142001000200013
>
> > >
>
> > >> )
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> > >>
>
> > >>
>
> > >> "Ler é uma operação inteligente,    difícil, exigente, mas
> gratificante.
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> > >> Ninguém lê ou estuda    autenticamente se não assume, diante do texto
>
> > ou do
>
> > >> objeto da curiosidade    a forma crítica de ser ou de estar sendo
>
> > sujeito
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> > >> da curiosidade, sujeito    da leitura, sujeito do processo de conhecer
>
> > em
>
> > >> que se acha. Ler é procurar    buscar criar a compreensão do lido;
> daí,
>
> > >> entre outros pontos fundamentais,    a importância do ensino correto
> da
>
> > >> leitura e da escrita. É que    ensinar a ler é engajar-se numa
>
> > experiência
>
> > >> criativa em torno da compreensão. Da compreensão e da comunicação."
>
> > >>
>
> > >> My free translation of the extract:
>
> > >>
>
> > >>
>
> > >> "Reading is an intelligent, difficult, demanding,  but gratifying
>
> > >> operation. Nobody authentically reads or studies if, facing the text
> or
>
> > the
>
> > >> object of his/her curiosity, he/she doesn't take a critical stance as
>
> > the
>
> > >> subject of curiosity, the subject of reading, the subject of the
>
> > process of
>
> > >> knowing where he/she is. Reading is to try to create the understanding
>
> > of
>
> > >> what's being read; therefore, among other crucial points, there lies
> the
>
> > >> importance of teaching reading and writing in a correct way. Teaching
>
> > how
>
> > >> to read means engaging in a creative experience revolving
> understanding.
>
> > >> Understanding and communication."
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Well, I don't think there is anything else to comment about it.
>
> > >> Enjoy!
>
> > >> Ana Paula Cortez
>
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> > >
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> > >
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> *Assistant Professor
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> Social Foundations of Education
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> Dept. of Curriculum, Foundations, and Reading
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> Georgia Southern University
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*Robert Lake  Ed.D.
*Assistant Professor
Social Foundations of Education
Dept. of Curriculum, Foundations, and Reading
Georgia Southern University
P. O. Box 8144
Phone: (912) 478-5125
Fax: (912) 478-5382
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