Re: [xmca] "Rising to the concrete"

[Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>]

http://lchc.ucsd.edu/Histarch/ap81v3n2.PDF p.16

Mike, I also, at first had the same problem with motorscooter indicator, 
and I used a different but similar tactic to overcome it. Also, as a 
civil engineer I learnt that it was essential to imagine yourself as the 
building in order to nknow where the stresses would be and effectively 
design it, and most difficult problems, up to the point of calculations 
could be solved this way.

But ... :) ... I can't see what this has to do with abstract and 
concrete. Can you explain?
Andy

mike cole wrote:
> A wonderful paper by Yutaka Sayeki (with two key figures reversed, but 
> it is obvious where the mistake was made when you read it) has an 
> example of what I take to be almost a "measure" of rising to the 
> concrete (see also Davydov's ideas on the topic).
>
> Its part of a special issue of the newsletter. Accessible to anyone at 
> lchc.ucsd.edu <http://lchc.ucsd.edu>
>
> *
>
> Volume 3, Number 2 April 1981
>
> *
>
> AZUMA, Hiroshi: /A Note on Cross-Cultural Study/
>
> INAGAKI, Kayoko: /Facilitation of Knowledge Integration through /
>
> /Classroom Discussion/
>
> KASHIWAGI, Keiko: /Note on the Socialization Processes in Japan/
>
> HATANO, Giyoo, KUHARA, Keiko, and AKIYAMA, Michael: /Kanji Help /
>
> /Readers of Japanese Infer the Meaning of Unfamiliar Words/
>
> SAITO, Hirofumi/: Toward Comparative Studies in Reading Kanji and /
>
> /Kana/
>
> SAYEKI, Yutaka: /"Body Analogy" and the Cognition of Rotated Figures/
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com 
> <mailto:huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 15 August 2012 13:01, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net
>     <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
>
>     > Well, these issues are not going to be solved in 5 minutes, Huw.
>     Analog
>     > and digital belong to a completely different frame than the
>     concepts of
>     > abstract/concrete and general/universal which I think Greg asked
>     about
>     > initially.
>     >
>
>     Analog was an elaboration.  This point is not necessary to resolve
>     "universal" in the Lenin quote.
>
>     Huw
>
>
>     >
>     > Let me be brief then. Ilyenkov famously makes the point that
>     (exchange)
>     > value is an ideal, but it is also real. The market implements a
>     process of
>     > abstracting the value of commodities but it is the very
>     concreteness of the
>     > market which makes that process possible.
>
>     Democracy is an ideal which really motivates millions of people and
>     > underpins constitutional governments.
>     >
>
>     > Universal suffrage allows that insane people, criminals and
>     children do
>     > not vote. And what is more, when the President is elected, only
>     the votes
>     > of 51% count. (There are of course plenty of "Ah, but ..."s
>     about this, but
>     > this is what is meant by the difference between the general and the
>     > universal.)
>     >
>     > http://www.marxists.org/**reference/archive/hegel/works/**
>     >
>     sl/slsubjec.htm#SL163n1b<http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/sl/slsubjec.htm#SL163n1b>
>     >
>     > Andy
>     >
>     >
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