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On 15 August 2012 13:01, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote: > Well, these issues are not going to be solved in 5 minutes, Huw. Analog > and digital belong to a completely different frame than the concepts of > abstract/concrete and general/universal which I think Greg asked about > initially. > Analog was an elaboration. This point is not necessary to resolve "universal" in the Lenin quote. Huw > > Let me be brief then. Ilyenkov famously makes the point that (exchange) > value is an ideal, but it is also real. The market implements a process of > abstracting the value of commodities but it is the very concreteness of the > market which makes that process possible. Democracy is an ideal which really motivates millions of people and > underpins constitutional governments. > > Universal suffrage allows that insane people, criminals and children do > not vote. And what is more, when the President is elected, only the votes > of 51% count. (There are of course plenty of "Ah, but ..."s about this, but > this is what is meant by the difference between the general and the > universal.) > > http://www.marxists.org/**reference/archive/hegel/works/** > sl/slsubjec.htm#SL163n1b<http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/sl/slsubjec.htm#SL163n1b> > > Andy > > __________________________________________ _____ xmca mailing list xmca@weber.ucsd.edu http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca