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Of course Mark! If you could tell us how unit operations, toolforthoughts,
and
serious games are related to each other, it would help a lot of folks for
whom
bogost is an unknown name and toolforthoughts gets rendered incorrectly
as toolsforthought.
mike
ps-- Do you think that epic piece about googlization of the world helps
understand
the push of some toward recognition of a felt need for a new human/actant
ontology?
On 6/27/07, Mark Chen <markchen@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>
> I wrote about Bogost... and when no one replied (and I since I didn't
> realize messages I send out aren't sent back to me) I assumed my email
> address that I sent it to wasn't being accepted, so I resent from a
> different address. I later remembered that there is a web archive of this
> list, so I checked that and realized that you all did in fact receive two
> copies of the same message from me... I did this with two posts... uh
> woops! sorry. :)
>
> Anyway, I am glad the concept of unit operations might be of use. Would
> it
> be helpful if I tried to describe them more?
>
> mark
>
>
> On 6/27/07, Mike Cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Before long we will have polls open and a new article to read. In the
> > meantime, there are a lot of
> > issues associated with the toolsforthought article that I think have yet
> > to
> > be explore and a variety
> > of misunderstandings among people about what the "game" genre affords,
> > allows, precludes, etc.
> >
> > Someone mentioned Ian Bogost's work in connection with Toolforthought,
> > which
> > seemed apt to me,
> > but no one picked up on it. Perhaps because his work is not known. Then
> > the
> > idea that somehow
> > critique and game are antithetical notions crept in here and even the
> idea
> > that critique is unproductive
> > in principle.
> >
> > In connection with David Shaffer's work on games, it might be useful to
> > check you http://epistemicgames.org/eg/?cat=28.
> > no need to like it, but it might be helpful to ground the discussion. I
> > cold
> > not figure out if any of those games were downloadable.
> >
> > But there ARE downloadable games that aspire to what here is apparently
> > assume to be impossible. For example, check
> > out the games at www.bogost.com.
> >
> > Notice how .com is coming up in Naeem's posting, and is implicit in the
> > meantion of Ian B.
> > (It also comes up for every undergrad attending the university of
> > califronia, which masquerades under the
> > banner of .edu!)
> >
> > mike
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