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I have to admit, you folks are stirring up my inner Sapir-Whorf .....fascinating! On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:20 PM, David Kellogg <vaughndogblack@yahoo.com>wrote: > Nothing, Andy. That's why I want to oppose the ideal to the real, and not > to the material. > > ARTEFACT: > Tool-artefact Utensil-artefact > (mass production) (personal consumption) > > SIGN > Signal-sign Symbol-sign > (thing-thing) (meaning-meaning)] > > MATERIALITY > Reality Ideality > (percepts) (concepts) > > David Kellogg > Seoul National University of Education > > --- On Mon, 10/18/10, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote: > > > From: Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> > Subject: Re: [xmca] Tom Toolery > To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> > Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 7:02 PM > > > What would be an example of something which is ideal but not also material, > David? > andy > David Kellogg wrote: ... > > It seems to me that if we follow Steve and Ilyenkov, and we see problem > after problem as a matter of establishing the interaction of "ideal" and > "material", we will need some kind of super-category for the indivisible > whole which both ideal and material make up. Otherwise we really do fall > into the worst kind of Cartesian dualism. ... > > > > > __________________________________________ > _____ > xmca mailing list > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > > > > > __________________________________________ > _____ > xmca mailing list > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > > -- *Robert Lake Ed.D. *Assistant Professor Social Foundations of Education Dept. of Curriculum, Foundations, and Reading Georgia Southern University P. O. Box 8144 Phone: (912) 478-5125 Fax: (912) 478-5382 Statesboro, GA 30460 *Democracy must be born anew in every generation, and education is its midwife.* *-*John Dewey. __________________________________________ _____ xmca mailing list xmca@weber.ucsd.edu http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca