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My inner Sapir-Whorf has been equally challenged Robert! andy Robert Lake wrote:
I have to admit, you folks are stirring up my inner Sapir-Whorf .....fascinating! On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:20 PM, David Kellogg <vaughndogblack@yahoo.com>wrote:Nothing, Andy. That's why I want to oppose the ideal to the real, and not to the material. ARTEFACT: Tool-artefact Utensil-artefact (mass production) (personal consumption) SIGN Signal-sign Symbol-sign (thing-thing) (meaning-meaning)] MATERIALITY Reality Ideality (percepts) (concepts) David Kellogg Seoul National University of Education --- On Mon, 10/18/10, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote: From: Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> Subject: Re: [xmca] Tom Toolery To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 7:02 PM What would be an example of something which is ideal but not also material, David? andy David Kellogg wrote: ...It seems to me that if we follow Steve and Ilyenkov, and we see problemafter problem as a matter of establishing the interaction of "ideal" and "material", we will need some kind of super-category for the indivisible whole which both ideal and material make up. Otherwise we really do fall into the worst kind of Cartesian dualism. ..._______________________________________________ xmca mailing list xmca@weber.ucsd.edu http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca __________________________________________ _____ xmca mailing list xmca@weber.ucsd.edu http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
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