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Thank you. This is very helpful. This seems to me, more consistent with other ideas in this same chapter. -----Original Message----- From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Bella Kotik-Friedgut Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 8:55 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: Re: [xmca] nonverbal representations Monica May be it will be helpful if I will try to correct the translation In Kozulin's translation of Thought and Language (1986): "We are therefore > forced to conclude that the fusion of though and speech, in adults as well > as in children, is a phenomenon WHICH IS APPLICABLE AND MEANINGFUL ONLY IN > RELATION TO VERBAL THINKING, WHILE OTHER ASPECTS OF Nonverbal > thought and nonintellectual speech are > affected only indirectly by the processes of THIS FUSION AND THERE IS NO > ANY CAUSAL RELATION (p. 89). > > Does anyone have another interpretation here? This is in Chapter 4 in The > Genetic Roots of Thought and Speech at the end of part III. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On > Behalf Of Martin Packer > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 8:26 PM > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Subject: Re: [xmca] sense and sensibility > > What's your project, Monica? > > Martin > > On Apr 28, 2011, at 8:16 PM, Monica Hansen wrote: > > > Thank you so much! Definitely useful for my current project-a small part > of > > my dissertation, which is turning out to be a lot about semiotics, who > knew? > > I thought it was just about words and meaning. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] > On > > Behalf Of Martin Packer > > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:22 PM > > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > > Subject: Re: [xmca] sense and sensibility > > > > This from Morris' dissertation: Symbolism and reality: a study in the > nature > > of mind. > > > > "The essay will aim to show that thought and mind are not entities, nor > even > > processes involving a psychical substance distinguishable from the rest > of > > reality, but are explicable as the functioning of parts of the experience > of > > an organism as symbols to that organism of other parts of experience. > Being > > then the symbolic portion *of* experience, the psychical or mental can > > neither be sharply opposed to the rest of experience, nor identified with > > the whole of experience. And since experience will be shown to be a > portion > > of reality, it follows that mind and reality can never be utterly > separated > > nor indiscriminately identified" (3-4) > > > > On Apr 28, 2011, at 7:09 PM, Martin Packer wrote: > > > >> Monica, > >> > >> Charles W. Morris (May 23, 1901, Denver, Colorado - January 15, 1979, > > Gainesville, Florida) was an American semiotician and philosopher. George > > Herbert Mead directed his doctoral dissertation on a symbolic theory of > > mind, completed in 1925. His students included semiotician Thomas A. > Sebeok. > > For some years I've had his "Six Theories of Mind" (1932) on the shelf, > and > > recently found time to read it. (It's available on the web.) > >> > >> Martin > >> > > > > __________________________________________ > > _____ > > xmca mailing list > > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > > > > __________________________________________ > > _____ > > xmca mailing list > > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > > __________________________________________ > _____ > xmca mailing list > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > > __________________________________________ > _____ > xmca mailing list > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > -- Sincerely yours Bella Kotik-Friedgut __________________________________________ _____ xmca mailing list xmca@weber.ucsd.edu http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca __________________________________________ _____ xmca mailing list xmca@weber.ucsd.edu http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca