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Larry, it's here: <http://www.mathcs.duq.edu/~packer/Pubs/PDFs/2000%20EdPsy.pdf> On Jun 17, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Larry Purss wrote: > Thanks Martin. > I will be able to access it on my own. However, I won't be able to > circulate it because of copywrite. If you have a copy that can be > distributed more widely, to open up a conversation that would be > appreciated. > I also appreciate how you articulate the practices of "evaluation in school > practices as a misguided form of "recognition" and tat the "desire" for > recognition is one of the fundamental motivations that directs us to RESPOND > to others intersubjectively. > > I thought I would let you know I'm circulating your AERA article [short and > therefore possibly will actually be read] to numerous people in my school > district. I would like this topic to become a topic of professional > development in the district. [My notion of the ideal "what-if"] The topic of > learning as forming "kinds" of persons [being] is a very powerful reframe of > our taken for granted notions of learning. > > Thanks > > Larry > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Martin Packer <packer@duq.edu> wrote: > >> Hi Larry, >> >> That paper did show up in published form: >> >> Packer, M. J. & Goicoechea, J. (2000). Sociocultural and constructivist >> theories of learning: Ontology, not just epistemology. Educational >> Psychologist, 35, 227-241. >> >> If you don't have access I can send you a copy. >> >> Martin >> >> On Jun 17, 2011, at 7:58 AM, Larry Purss wrote: >> >>> Hi Martin >>> >>> In 1999 you presented at AERA on the topic "The Ontology of Learning" >> [which >>> is on the web if you google "Martin Packer" "Jean Lave"] >>> In the concluding section you summarize six different ontological tropes >>> that account for learning as a change of the PERSON not just a change of >>> knowledge. >>> You then mention that you and Jessie Goicheaia have explored these 6 >> tropes >>> in detail in an unpublished paper. >>> >>> My question is if it is possible to get a copy of this paper. Learning >> as a >>> change of the person [in contrast to learning as changing structures of >>> knowledge] is a perspective on learning I would like to pursue further >> [not >>> just personally but as a counsellor working in elementary public >> schools.] >>> >>> Thanks >>> Larry >>> >>> PS On another topic of the contrast of "everyday concepts" and "science >>> concepts" and schools being the institution in which to develop >> scientific >>> concepts as a perspective of learning seems to be critiqued by the notion >> of >>> learning as apprenticeship where the commonalities of learning as >> practice >>> across all settings challenges the dichotomy of scientific and everyday >>> concepts. Have these various perspectives on learning been brought into >>> "play" on this forum? >>> __________________________________________ >>> _____ >>> xmca mailing list >>> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu >>> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca >> >> __________________________________________ >> _____ >> xmca mailing list >> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu >> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca >> > __________________________________________ > _____ > xmca mailing list > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca __________________________________________ _____ xmca mailing list xmca@weber.ucsd.edu http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca