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Human thought/word/action is always in part "imagined" and always in part "mediated". How de we enter the circle?? Do we enter "as if" a spatial metaphor of parts and wholes or do we enter as if a "historical" circle between the "already" and the "to be"?? Gadamer suggests the whole is the "whole of life". Larry On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:38 AM, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote: > Which is to say, that human thought/word/action is always in part > "imagined"? > mike > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Huw > > > > Where do you locate the *as if* structure of understanding? Wolfgang > Iser > > proposes a literary anthropology model that posits the actual/real realm > > AND the imaginal realm MEDIATED by the fictional. In this model the > > distinctions or boundaries between the actual and the fictional are not > > distinct and clear. > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > On 17 August 2012 19:03, Ivan Rosero <irosero@ucsd.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > In the interest of understanding you Huw, these two lines in your > most > > > > recent post jumped out at me > > > > > > > > To assert that something is not relevant is to prevent such creative > > > > thinking... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Going back to the other contention, your assertion that analog and > > > > digital belong to a different frame is wrong. The only possible > truth > > of > > > > the assertion is that they have nothing to do with your frame... > > > > > > > > > > > > The following lines also struck me > > > > > > > > To abstract is to measure. To measure is to compare. Comparison is > > > > digital. > > > > > > > > These assertions create a pretty big universe of seemingly irrelevant > > > > things to thinking about abstraction and comparison. I wonder, for > > > > example, if abstraction can be about something other than measuring? > > > And, > > > > would the following sentence count as comparison? > > > > > > > > "A dog is kind of like a sheep." > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it can count as comparison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If yes, is this a "digital" comparison? If no, what is this sentence > > in > > > > your estimation? > > > > > > > > > > Yes. For the dog to be conceived of as like a sheep, you are > comparing > > a > > > model of a dog with a model of a sheep. > > > > > > Likewise the only means of comparing the two living things is by > various > > > measurements. To say that one is like another is to compare > conceptions > > > made from aggregated abstractions. > > > > > > But you could say "My dog is a sheep", which is not such a comparison. > > > > > > I do not like writing that someone is wrong, but then I do not like > > > obfuscation even more. If you think it's out of place, please forgive > > the > > > harshness. > > > > > > Huw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ivan > > > > __________________________________________ > > > > _____ > > > > xmca mailing list > > > > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > > > > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > > > > > > > __________________________________________ > > > _____ > > > xmca mailing list > > > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > > > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > > > > > __________________________________________ > > _____ > > xmca mailing list > > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > > > __________________________________________ > _____ > xmca mailing list > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > __________________________________________ _____ xmca mailing list xmca@weber.ucsd.edu http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca